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  <p>Empatyczna kobieta z klasą… – 	Empatyczna kobieta z klasą…<br>
	Choć w filmografii Katarzyny Walter brak jest serialu „Na Wspólnej”, w którym występuje przez ostatnie dwa lata (od listopada 2006), chciałabym kilka zdań bohaterom tegoż poświęcić. <br>
	Od momentu kiedy pojawia się Agnieszka Olszewska kreowana przez Katarzynę Walter, film niewątpliwie zyskał na atrakcyjności. Piękna, zgrabna, inteligentna pani adwokat, choć odnosi sukcesy zawodowe, dotychczas nie wiodło jej się w życiu osobistym.<br>
	Na miłość podobno nigdy nie jest za późno, o czym przekonała się nie tylko Agnieszka. Poznanie romantycznego nauczyciela muzyki swojej podopiecznej okazało się być w jej życiu wydarzeniem przełomowym. Choć oboje pierwszą młodość mają za sobą, uczucie zawładnęło nimi bez reszty. Ale jak to często bywa, miłość napotyka na przeszkody, a droga do osiągnięcia szczęścia – wyboista… <br>
	Nie jestem zwolennikiem idei „cel uświęca środki”. Nie każdy cel jest wart użycia radykalnych środków, a i nie wszystkie środki należy wykorzystać dla osiągnięcia błahego celu. Aby osiągnąć upragniony cel, ludzie imają się różnych metod: od szczerej aż do bólu prawdy, bicia przeciwnika na oślep, gdzie popadnie, aż do kłamstwa i szantażu włącznie. Po drodze znalazłoby się jeszcze parę innych sposobów… Wydaje się, że wybranie „złotego środka”  jest drogą najwłaściwszą, choć często trudną.  <br>
	No cóż, szczera prawda, owszem, jest dobra, ale należy się zastanowić, czy ten komu chcemy ją wyznać, od nas tego oczekuje. Czy szczerością aż do bólu nie wyrządzimy komuś „niedźwiedziej przysługi”? Nie, nie jestem zwolennikiem okłamywania, oszukiwania czy krętactwa we wszelakiej postaci. Czasami wystarczy dyskretnie coś przemilczeć, czy nie dopowiedzieć do końca… Metoda bicia na oślep też bywa zawodna, szczególnie, gdy przeciwnik silniejszy… Kłamstwo okazuje się również mało skuteczne, bo jak się często powiada „kłamstwo ma krótkie nogi”. <br>
	Dokąd zmierzam tymi dywagacjami natury filozoficzno- etyczno-moralnej? Do odpowiedzi na pytanie, która z powyższych metod osiągnięcia celu będzie skuteczna dla Agnieszki i Rafała? Cel mają niby ten sam – obronić swoją  miłość, miłość wzajemną i przekonać do niej matkę Rafała. Jednakże różne drogi wiodące do tegoż celu wybrali. Rafał chce być z Agnieszką, tak przynajmniej deklaruje, ale nie potrafi sprzeciwić się własnej matce, nie potrafi powiedzieć wprost o swoim uczuciu do ukochanej kobiety. Nie wybrał zatem drogi prawdy, zresztą nie wiadomo dokąd ta prawda by go zawiodła.<br>
	„Prawda was wyzwoli”, ale od czego? Od wieloletnich przyzwyczajeń, uległości? Wolność jest pojęciem względnym. A zatem prawda, która ma wyzwolić może być wolnością od czegoś lub do czegoś.<br>
	O tym jak „krótkie nogi ma kłamstwo” Rafał boleśnie się przekonał – starczyło na drogę z Warszawy do Kielc, choć w planach było Zakopane… Zaborcza i wścibska  mamusia nie omieszkała zatelefonować do matki kolegi, na którego koncert rzekomo syn pojechał. Prawda po czasie  i sprzeciw na odległość nie pomogły…  <br>
Mama znalazła się w szpitalu, a Rafał wraca w pośpiechu do Warszawy… <br>
	Gdyby Agnieszka wyznała szczerą prawdę matce Rafała, że kocha jej syna i chce być z nim, Sobczakowa poczułaby się zagrożona i znienawidziłaby ją… Cóż by zyskała? Wroga do końca życia. A straciłaby… miłość…<br>
Kłamstwo? Tę drogę Olszewska ma już za sobą i doskonale wie o tym, ile krzywdy można wyrządzić, więc  z pewnością nie będzie się uciekać do mniejszych czy większych kłamstewek… Poza tym sama ma za złe Rafałowi, że nie powiedział matce prawdy o ich wspólnym wyjeździe. Jaka zatem droga pozostaje? Jaki jest ów „złoty środek”, aby „wilk był syty i owca cała”? Taktyka i dyplomacja! Ale aby było to skuteczne, trzeba być nie tylko elokwentnym, bystrym i inteligentnym, czego Agnieszce odmówić nie można. Przy  całym szacunku dla wszelakich zalet charakteru i umysłu pani adwokat, tylko tyle czy aż tyle, byłoby za mało. Kobieca intuicja, owszem, też przydaje się w różnych sytuacjach. Jednak to co najbardziej istotne – trzeba być empatycznym… Tak empatycznym –  umieć  wyobrazić sobie, co odczuwa nasz adwersarz i do tego wybrać odpowiednie środki. Trzeba umieć wczuć się w sytuację i spróbować zastanowić się,  jak  sami byśmy w niej postąpili… Empatia wiąże się z umiejętnością głębokiego wglądu we własne wnętrze oraz z osobistą wrażliwością na wszystko, co istnieje. Wśród wielu przymiotów Agnieszki należałoby podkreślić tę szczególną wrażliwość, która pozwala być empatyczną… <br>
Jednak przez lata sukcesów i porażek w życiu zawodowym i osobistym Agnieszka nauczyła się panować nad swoimi emocjami. Wprawdzie czasami widzimy ją stremowaną, czy zdenerwowaną, ale to jako się rzekło, owa szczególna wrażliwość…<br>
Wydaje się, że taką drogę obrała Agnieszka. Choć przyznaje w rozmowie z Ewą, że boi się pani Ludwiki, wybiera się do niej z wizytą. I cóż widzimy?  Za każdym podejściem wyprzedza „przeciwnika”  o krok… Zaskoczonemu Rafałowi nie daje dojść do słowa. Zdumionej Sobczakowej wręcza bukiet z troską w głosie pytając o samopoczucie. Mówi, że gdyby wiedziała o stanie zdrowia, z pewnością nie wyjechaliby na weekend, a ona chętnie zaopiekowałaby się panią Ludwiką. Karci przy okazji Rafała, że jej o tym nie poinformował… Zdając sobie sprawę z tego, że to niemożliwe, proponuje wspólny wyjazd. Cóż dalej? Proponuje przygotowanie wespół  z Rafałem pożywnego rosołu dla chorej, a w tym celu poczyniła już nawet zakupy. Wie, że gdyby sama zechciała „szarogęsić się” w kuchni, mogłoby to zostać źle odebrane. W związku z taką propozycją Sobczakowa wysyła zdziwionego syna, aby pomógł Agnieszce. <br>
Poza tym gotowanie rosołu wymaga  czasu, a Agnieszce trzeba czasu. Z pewnością nie wystarczyłaby piętnastominutowa towarzyska herbatka, a  nie mogłaby też liczyć na to, że „pozbędzie” się na czas jakiś Rafała. <br>
Zdaje się, a właściwie pewne jest,  że  wysyła go do sklepu, aby zostać z panią Ludwiką sam na sam. Może widz spodziewał się dantejskich scen, płaczu, czy walki wręcz między paniami… Nic z tego… Agnieszka proponuje przy herbatce jaśminowej oglądanie albumu rodzinnego. Doskonale wie, że tworzy to okazję, aby pani Ludwika mogła mówić na swój ulubiony temat – o ukochanym jedynaku. Kiedy wraca Rafał z zakupami, widzi panie w doskonałej komitywie… Oto co można osiągnąć odpowiednią taktyką i dyplomacją! Wydawać by się mogło, że te dwa pojęcia dalekie są od metod osiągania celu,  jeśli jest nim wygranie walki o uczucie. Nic bardziej mylnego! Jeśli kwintesencją dyplomacji jest siła argumentów, a nie argument siły, czymże jest działanie Olszewskiej jeśli nie dyplomacją właśnie.<br>
Ale tak „rozegrać” tę sprawę mogła tylko Agnieszka. Jest przecież adwokatem, dobrym adwokatem,  więc nie brakuje jej  zdolności oratorskich czy umiejętności przekonywania. Przecież nie przestaje się być nim poza salą sądową, czy kancelarią. Nie zawodzi jej też kobieca intuicja. <br>
	Agnieszka nigdy nie kłóci się z Rafałem, nie podnosi głosu, nie robi mu wyrzutów, co nie znaczy, że jego zachowanie  czasami jej nie irytuje. Umie i chce słuchać racji swoich rozmówców, chociaż nie zawsze się z nimi  zgadza. Z tych dwojga to Rafał jest człowiekiem spolegliwym, który bezkrytycznie poddawał się całe życie woli swej mamusi. To on jest konformistą.<br>
Kiedy widzi całkiem „inną” Agnieszkę, jest zaskoczony, wręcz zdumiony. Usiłuje protestować, że nie tędy droga, że tak nie pozyska sympatii matki. Jednakże ona niezrażona konsekwentnie wypełnia krok po kroku swoją misję zjednania pani Ludwiki, misję walki o miłość, być może miłość swego życia. Okazuje się, że Rafał tak naprawdę nie zna, czy raczej nie poznał jeszcze „takiej” Agnieszki. Nie poznał jej pragnień,  siły jej uczucia i desperacji z jaką potrafi walczyć o słuszną jej zdaniem sprawę… Wydaje się to dziwne, ale nie zna również swojej matki… i przez wiele lat spędzonych pod jednym dachem nie potrafił  mówić o swoich uczuciach i pragnieniach, w taki sposób, aby nie raniąc osiągnąć cel.  Jeszcze kilka takich wizyt i pani Ludwika wspaniałomyślnie odda sama Rafała w ręce Agnieszki, będąc oczywiście przekonaną, że to jest jej decyzja! <br>
	Gdyby Agnieszka zdała się tylko na poczynania, a raczej obietnice Rafała, pewnie jeszcze długo słuchałaby tłumaczeń, że może nie teraz… że musi poczekać… Jedną wizytą osiągnęła więcej niż Sobczak wszystkimi dotychczasowymi pseudodziałaniami…<br>
	Dyplomacja to wielka sztuka! Trzeba umieć tak pokierować sprawą, aby adwersarz pozostał w przekonaniu, że to on sam dokonał wyboru! Ale do tego potrzebny jest takt, nieprzeciętna inteligencja, no i empatia oczywiście!<br>
Chyba nikt już nie może mieć  wątpliwości, że Agnieszka osiągnie cel szybciej niż komukolwiek się wydawało…<br>
Wcale nie potrzeba do tego radykalnych środków.  Nie, nie  oznacza to wcale, że nie trzeba użyć środków szczególnych. Gdyby to było takie łatwe i proste, Agnieszka i Rafał dawno byliby już razem. Trzeba po prostu umieć metody osiągnięcia celu wybrać i wiedzieć jak ich użyć!<br>
	Ale na to stać tylko kobietę z klasą, empatyczną kobietę, jaką z pewnością jest Agnieszka!</p>
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  <p>Nie, nie uważam, że to ja robię śmietnik! Internet od dawna jest totalnym śmietnikiem…<br>
Wszelakie fora dyskusyjne (w tym filmowe również!)  pełne są „śmieci”: infantylnych komentarzy, obraźliwych opinii, czy języka prawie że polskiego. <br>
Czy dlatego, że  mój wybór padł akurat na serial i w dodatku polski?  Zapewniam, że ogląda go znacznie więcej osób niż Ci się zdaje… Poza tym może czasami warto oglądać jakiś serial (nie mówię, że wszystko jak leci) chociażby ze względu na określony wątek czy ulubionego aktora.<br>
Wracając zaś do forów dyskusyjnych, niektórzy uciekają się nawet do prowokacji i pisząc o czymś celowo robią mnóstwo błędów (ortograficznych!), aby udowodnić jak prymitywni ludzie oglądają seriale… To jest dopiero śmietnik! Wszyscy (albo prawie wszyscy) krytykują, wyśmiewają, obrażają – aktorów też! Ktoś zrobił nawet na, zdawałoby się, poważnym forum filmowym  ranking na najgłupszego aktora, czy najbrzydszą aktorkę.<br>
I to jest właśnie śmietnik! <br>
Seriale jedni oglądają inni nie – wybór należy do każdego z nas. Podobno o gustach się nie dyskutuje. Nie widzę jednak powodu, aby kpić z tych, którzy oglądają lub poddawać w wątpliwość ich intelekt. To że niektórych aktorów widzowie znają tylko z seriali, chociaż mają pokaźny dorobek pozaserialowy – ich strata (widzów oczywiście)! Można wymienić wiele nazwisk znakomitych aktorów, którzy mają za sobą wiele interesujących ról w ciekawych filmach zanim zaczęli grać w serialu. <br>
Dodanie swojej opinii na temat konkretnych bohaterów nawet serialu na stronie określonego aktora nie zmusza nikogo do czytania wbrew swojej woli… Uważam, że ważne jest nie tylko to o czym, ale również jak się pisze, a zatem nie tylko treść, ale również forma się liczy. Jeśli chociażby jedna osoba czytając mogła coś znaleźć dla siebie i nie koniecznie wynikające z treści wątku, lecz z problemu, warto narażać się nawet na złośliwe komentarze. A może opinia moja miała służyć właśnie temu, aby ładnym językiem powiedzieć o nawet wydawałoby się  błahych sprawach? Chociaż nie uważam, aby miłość, umiejętność rozwiązywania problemów, czy wybieranie określonych środków do osiągnięcia celu były sprawami błahymi.<br>
Nikogo nie nakłaniam, nie przekonuję do oglądania tego czy innego serialu… a swój pogląd mam prawo wyrazić. To „kawałek” mojej wolności, z której zamierzam korzystać, niezależnie od tego czy to się  komuś podoba czy nie…<br>
Z poważaniem.<br>
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  <p>Nie krytykuję tego, że lubisz seriale, a już na pewno nie tego, że udzielasz się na forum. Wręcz przeciwnie- bardzo mnie to cieszy. Pisząc "śmietnik" miałem na myśli to, że dodajesz tyle komentarzy do jednej osoby, a przecież można to wszystko ładnie umieścić w jednym temacie, nikt na tym nie straci, a forum owej osoby stanie się bardziej przejrzyste. Nie mowię też, żebyś słuchała mnie, bo zadałem tylko pytanie i nie byłem złośliwy. Pozdrawiam :)</p>
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  <p>To świetnie, że przynajmniej w tej materii doszliśmy do porozumienia! Ale jest to dowód również na to, że należy wysławiać się precyzyjnie, bo jak kiedyś ktoś napisał „słowa są jak pęknięty kocioł, na którym wygrywamy melodie godne tańczącego niedźwiedzia, podczas kiedy chcielibyśmy wzruszyć gwiazdy”<br>
Może w tym przypadku (ilości komentarzy) masz akurat rację! Ale wynika to z mojej krótkiej bytności na fdb. To da się poprawić! Jeszcze jedno sprostowanie:  n i e   j e s t e m   fanką seriali. Napisałam o tym, gdyż zaciekawił mnie wątek tych właśnie postaci i jak pewnie można się domyślić kreacji aktorskiej. Wiem, że serial nie jest najlepszym testem dla aktora, ale bezsprzecznie przynosi największą popularność. Na razie powiedzmy, że przyglądam się opiniom, komentarzom, czytam recenzje, być może pokuszę się też o własne. A swoją drogą (sorry za kolokwializm) bardzo mnie interesuje, czy przeczytałeś chociaż jeden z tych komentarzy? Czy tylko zaopiniowałeś ze względu na ich liczbę?<br>
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  <p>Oczywiście, że przeczytałem, inaczej nie wypowiadałbym się.  <br>
Swoją drogą, bardzo fajnie piszesz i zachęcam Cię do napisania jakiejś recenzji, bo jak przypuszaczam omówisz dany film obszernie i wyczerpująco.</p>
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  <p>Jeśli piszesz, że przeczytałeś to dlaczego pierwszy odzew to „śmietnik”. Wiem, wiem wyjaśniłeś to, ale w pierwszym momencie odebrałam to jako ocenę tekstu, co nie będę ukrywać mnie zirytowało, stąd może trochę ostra riposta…<br>
	Odkąd „bywam” na różnych forach, w tym filmowych, mam nieodparte wrażenie, że mnóstwo ludzi pisze, znacznie mniej czyta. A kiedy pojawia się tekst dłuższy, nie ma szansy, aby ktokolwiek do niego zajrzał. A nawet jeśli zdarzy się, że przeczyta, z pewnością nie pokusi się o komentarz. (przeczytałem, nie masz racji, nie zgadzam się itp.)<br>
Wcale nie musi być to dyskusja o konkretnym filmie, ale równie dobrze można pogawędzić o problemach, do których film jest tylko pretekstem. Taki rodzaj polemiki mnie interesuje… <br>
Rozumiem doskonale, że forum to niejako bieżąca dyskusja na temat. Ale myślę też, że czasami warto nad czymś się zastanowić, aby opinia była dogłębna. Nie potrafię pisać „monosylabami”, „wrzucać” komentarza „na gorąco” bez zastanowienia, więc nie wiem, czy chcę w ten sposób dyskutować. Po prostu będę pisać „sobie” komentarze, nie szczególnie licząc na to, że ktoś je przeczyta… Jeśli o czymś piszę, chcę, żeby było to nie tylko przekonujące i ciekawe (tak mi się wydaje), ale też napisane ładną,  poprawną polszczyzną. Jak wcześniej nadmieniłam „język Internetu” mnie czasami irytuje i w taki sposób próbuję to zmieniać… Jest to pewnie „walka z wiatrakami”, ale czasami może warto „porobić za siłaczkę”…<br>
Może kiedyś, zgodnie z Twoją sugestią, pokuszę się o jakąś recenzję, ale nie nastąpi to szybko…<br>
Pozdrawiam!  <br>
Ps. Nie  liczę na to, że przeczytasz wszystkie moje dotychczasowe komentarze nie tylko o rzeczonym serialu, ale i o osobie… Jeśli jednak byś się zdecydował, chętnie przeczytam, co Ty na to, a nie od razu, że śmietnik…</p>
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  <p>Jane czy Tobie za to płacą? Nie lepiej zająć się czymś ciekawszym niż tyle pisać?</p>
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  <p>Nikt mi za to nie płaci, niestety! Lubię pisać!</p>
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  <p>&gt; AnuSs_ o 2009-01-05 03:51 napisał:  <br>
Nie lepiej zająć się czymś ciekawszym niż tyle<br>
&gt; pisać?</p>
<p>Na przykład czym? Co byłoby dla niej ciekawsze?</p>
<p>Dobrze, że w końcu ktoś pisze więcej niż jedno zdanie, że ktoś ma do powiedzenia więcej niż "Dno! 1/10" albo "Klasyk! 10/10" i "Polecam!!!!!!". Ciekawe, że takich "opinii" nikt nie nazwał zaśmiecaniem, chociaż jest ich 90%.</p>
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  <p>&gt; Manna o 2009-01-05 17:35 napisał:  <br>
&gt; Ciekawe, że<br>
&gt; takich "opinii" nikt nie nazwał zaśmiecaniem, chociaż jest ich 90%.</p>
<p>Jeśli chodzi o mnie to ja wcale nie nazwałem zamieszczanych przez Janę komentrzy śmieceniem, czy też niewartościowymi tekstami, wyjaśniłem zresztą o co mi chodzilo.</p>
<p>&gt; Jana o 2009-01-03 20:39 napisał:  <br>
&gt; Ps. Nie  liczę na to, że przeczytasz wszystkie moje dotychczasowe komentarze nie<br>
&gt; tylko o rzeczonym serialu, ale i o osobie… Jeśli jednak byś się zdecydował,<br>
&gt; chętnie przeczytam, co Ty na to, a nie od razu, że śmietnik…</p>
<p>Owa osoba i serial mnie nie interesują, więc nie mam na ich temat nic do powiedzenia. Natomiast, jeśli napiszesz komentarz do filmu/ osoby, którą znam to z przyjemnością podyskutuję.</p>
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  <p>&gt; majak01 o 2009-01-05 17:51 napisał:  <br>
 ja wcale nie nazwałem zamieszczanych przez Janę komentrzy śmieceniem, czy też niewartościowymi tekstami&gt;</p>
<p>To jest nas już dwoje :) Wiem, <strong>czytałam</strong> Twoje wyjaśnienie. Czytałam, bo są tacy, którzy lubią pisać i są inni, którzy wolą czytać. Ja raczej należę do tych drugich.</p>
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  <p>&gt; Manna o 2009-01-05 17:58 napisał:  <br>
&gt; ja wcale nie nazwałem zamieszczanych przez Janę komentrzy śmieceniem, czy też<br>
&gt; niewartościowymi tekstami&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; To jest nas już dwoje :) Wiem, <strong>czytałam</strong> Twoje wyjaśnienie. Czytałam, bo są<br>
&gt; tacy, którzy lubią pisać i są inni, którzy wolą czytać. Ja raczej należę do tych<br>
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<p>To ja chyba jakimś mieszańcem jestem :P, bo lubię czytać i pisać ;)</p>
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  <p>&gt; Manna o 2009-01-05 18:01 napisał:  <br>
&gt; Przy okazji zapytam, co trzeba zrobić, żeby "enter" działał prawidłowo i można<br>
&gt; byłoby zaczynać pisać od nowego akapitu?</p>
<p>Na końcu zdania musisz zrobić podwóją spację.  <br>
Aaaa dalej już możesz pisać od nowej lini.</p>
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  <p>Całkowicie się z Tobą zgadzam i cieszę, że mówi to „trzygwiazdkowa” forumowiczka. <br>
Nie mam do nikogo pretensji, że temat czy postać go nie interesuje  i nie chce wypowiadać się na temat zamieszczonego tekstu, ale denerwuje mnie jeśli ktoś mnie usiłuje obrażać albo wdaje się w bezsensowną polemikę (oczywiście nie mam tu na myśli ani Ciebie ani Majaka)<br>
Serdecznie dziękuję, DOBRA KOBIETO za życzliwość i wparcie!  Dzięki Waszej wymianie poglądów też się czegoś nauczyłam… Całe życie człowiek się uczy. Ponieważ jestem „raczkującym” forumowiczem, więc każda wskazówka jest dla mnie cenna (chociaż ta nie była akurat dla mnie). Też mam czasami problem z edycją tekstu. Jeszcze raz dziękuję i nie omieszkam poprosić o radę w konkretnych problemach… <br>
Jeśli zechciałabyś skomentować tekst, który wywołał taką burzę, będę wdzięczna. Jeśli temat Cię nie interesuje, sorry nie będę nalegać.<br>
Dlaczego o to proszę? W tym całym potoku „opinii” zirytowały mnie te, które tak naprawdę nic nie wnoszą, a mają na celu „przywalić”, bo temat komuś się nie podoba (np. grafomaństwo i pseudoaktorka).<br>
Całe życie mnie uczono, że zwalcza się poglądy a nie adwersarza, ale niestety nieliczni forumowicze tej zasady się trzymają! Tym bardziej chapo bass  czy jak kto woli „szacun” dla Ciebie i Majaka!</p>
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  <p>&gt; kuba wajda o 2009-01-08 16:33 napisał:  <br>
&gt; z jakiegoś fanklubu "k. walter" jesteś? jeśli nie, to może pomyśl o założeniu<br>
&gt; czegoś takiego? xD</p>
<p>odniosłam podobne wrażenie;)</p>
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  <p>&gt; justangel o 2009-01-09 19:36 napisał:  <br>
&gt; odniosłam podobne wrażenie;)</p>
<p>Czyżbyś Aniele postanowiła stracić trochę swego cennego czasu? Tylko nie wiem po co, skoro jako rzekłaś ani  lubisz ani znasz tę panią?<br>
Cóż za wnikliwy komentarz! Chyba nie spociłaś się przy nim?<br>
A „fikcyjny ruch na forum” powodują tacy właśnie dyskutanci, którzy nie znają, nie lubią, za to uwielbiają „dolewać oliwy do ognia” i obrażać! Gratuluję aktywności, którą przez swoje zacietrzewienie windujecie na początek listy, kogoś kogo ani lubicie ani znacie! Ale tak naprawdę też nie czytacie, bo temat jest znacznie szerszy… Nie liczę na odpowiedź.</p>
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  <p>&gt; kuba wajda o 2009-01-08 16:33 napisał:  <br>
&gt; z jakiegoś fanklubu "k. walter" jesteś? jeśli nie, to może pomyśl o założeniu<br>
&gt; czegoś takiego? xD</p>
<p>Z pewnością fanklubu zakładać nie będę z tej prostej przyczyny, że od dawna nie jestem „jednomyślna”, co łączy fanów. A poza tym o czym byście tak żarliwie dyskutowali?</p>
<p>A „fikcyjny ruch na forum” powodują tacy właśnie dyskutanci, którzy nie znają, nie lubią, za to uwielbiają „dolewać oliwy do ognia” i obrażać! Gratuluję aktywności, którą przez swoje zacietrzewienie windujecie na początek listy, kogoś kogo ani lubicie ani znacie! Ale tak naprawdę też nie czytacie, bo temat jest znacznie szerszy… Nie liczę na odpowiedź.<br>
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