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  <p>AKTORKA  DWÓCH  SERIALI? – Niemałą konsternację przeżyłam zaglądając na stronę Katarzyny Walter w Wirtualnej Polsce.<br>
Otóż filmografia aktorki na stronie WP ogranicza się do dwóch seriali: „Pensjonat Pod różą” i „Na wspólnej”. Prawda, że z seriali, w których grywała ostatnio, najlepsze. W kilku innych pojawiła się gościnnie, ale nie w tym tkwi problem. Wcale nie zamierzam przytaczać, wymieniać wszelakich pozycji, które znaleźć można na innych stronach, w których filmografię potraktowano rzetelnie. O rzetelność właśnie mi chodzi. Skwitowanie dorobku artystycznego aktorki  dwoma serialami jest po prostu    n i e r z e t e l n e. To również ignorancja autorów strony WP , którzy nie zadali sobie minimum trudu, aby pewne rzeczy sprawdzić. Nie wspomnę już o tym, że jest to duży nietakt w stosunku do artysty o dorobku jednak znacznie większym niż te dwa seriale. Poza tym stawianie w jednym szeregu profesjonalnego aktora i amatora, jeśli największym osiągnięciem tego drugiego jest udział w jednym z popularnych seriali,  jest po prostu nietaktem…<br>
	 Katarzyna Walter na  czas jakiś odeszła od wykonywania zawodu, nie znaczy to jednak, że jej dotychczasowy dorobek zniknął, a ona zaczyna od początku. Podziwiać tylko należy, że znalazła w sobie tyle siły i motywację, aby wrócić na scenę, co z pewnością po kilku latach łatwe wcale nie było. Ale cóż dusza artysty – a raczej artystki – wygrała i chwała jej za to! Polecam inne strony (między innymi tę właśnie – fdb), na których można znaleźć   c a ł ą   filmografię, abyście drodzy widzowie nie pomyśleli błędnie, że Katarzyna Walter to aktorka dwóch seriali.<br>
	Ma na „swym koncie” kilkanaście  filmów i ponad dwudziestoletni staż w wykonywaniu zawodu. Do dorobku artystycznego zaliczyć należy  występy na scenach teatrów we Wrocławiu i Warszawie, w spektaklach teatru telewizji. Jeśli przyjąć nawet, że przez 7 lat była poza zawodem, to i tak mamy około 18 lat aktorstwa w czystej postaci. Zatem jawi się kolejne pytanie do autorów  strony WP, jaki może być wspólny mianownik dla profesjonalisty w każdym calu ze wspomnianym amatorem, który zagrał w jednym serialu? Według mnie nie ma takiego odniesienia, bo być nie może.<br>
	Internet, niestety, pełen jest przekłamań, nieścisłości i nie mam wcale na myśli tylko tego konkretnego przykładu. Często jest źródłem nie informacji a raczej    d e z i n f o r m a c j i!  Ale przecież to ludzie go tworzą… 	Wniosek zatem z tego taki, że nie należy się ograniczać do jednego źródła informacji!<br>
	Jeżeli zaś sami taką informację tworzymy – bądźmy  r z e t e l n i!</p>
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  <p>że tez Tobie sie chce tyle o niej wypisywać….</p>
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  <p>Tak, chce mi się! Wolę pisać o Niej niż o "Modzie na sukces" czy "Kiepskich" jak czynią to niektórzy…<br>
Ale Ona  – Katarzyna Walter – jest pretekstem do przedstawienia problemu rzetelności w informowaniu, niezależnie od tego czego, czy kogo dotyczy! A poza tym lubię tę panią jako aktorkę i jako kobietę…</p>
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  <p>&gt; A poza<br>
&gt; tym lubię tę panią jako aktorkę i jako kobietę…</p>
<p>Nie wątpię…<br>
Niemniej obawiam się, że tego co piszesz i tak nikt nie czyta;)</p>
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  <p>&gt; justangel o 2009-01-04 21:30 napisał:  <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Nie wątpię…<br>
&gt; Niemniej obawiam się, że tego co piszesz i tak nikt nie czyta;)</p>
<p>np. ja nie czytam :)</p>
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  <p>Przykro mi bardzo, ale płakać  z tego powodu nie zamierzam. Może jednak, ktoś kiedyś… Pisać i tak nie przestanę, czy się podoba komuś czy nie… A że temat czy postać kogoś nie zajmuje… Mnie też wiele rzeczy nie "kręci"… Wybór należy do każdego z nas…<br>
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  <p>I nie musisz! Poza tym trudno czytać, jeśli ma się 1 rok. Tylko zastanawiające skąd ta umiejętność pisania?<br>
Wprawdzie monosylabami, ale…<br>
bo jak kiedyś ktoś napisał „słowa są jak pęknięty kocioł, na którym wygrywamy melodie godne tańczącego niedźwiedzia, podczas kiedy chcielibyśmy wzruszyć gwiazdy”<br>
Pozdrawiam! Idę spać!</p>
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  <p>Czyżby ktoś tu rzucał ciągle tym samym cytatem? Radzę zerknąć na czasownik "czytam", który z pewnością monosylabą nie jest. I po co te ciągłe wielokropki? Usunąć może mi nie wolno takiego postu, ale przenieść z pewnością tak. Proszę nie zaśmiecać forum, apeluję jako jego moderator.</p>
<p>Spokojnej nocy! :)</p>
<p>P.S. Mam roczek, dokładnie tak! Cóż za spostrzegawczość.</p>
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  <p>Nie wiem co wam przeszkadza. Faktycznie ciężko będzie znaleźć osobę, która to wszystko przeczyta, ale grafomania to nie powód żeby komuś grozić moderacją. Fakt, że lepiej gdyby kolejne części były w jednym temacie.<br>
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  <p>Szanowny Moderatorze! Miałam już nie wdawać w tę bezsensowną polemikę nie na temat, ale niestety mnie sprowokowałeś!<br>
Bardzo przepraszam jeśli w czymkolwiek uraziłam, ale nie było to moim, zamiarem. Sądzę jednak, że żaden z moich komentarzy obraźliwy nie był, co najwyżej może trochę złośliwy. Ale to była reakcja na Twój komentarz<br>
Aby zakończyć wreszcie tę wymianę zdań, chciałabym przedstawić swoje argumenty, które mam nadzieję, przeczytasz.<br>
W punktach, żeby było krócej:<br>
1.	Szanowny moderatorze przemówiła przez moderatora mania wyższości pt. „kto tu rządzi”<br>
2.	Nie ja sprowokowałam tę „burzę w szklance wody”<br>
3.	Skoro nie czytałeś, to po co o tym piszesz? Jeśli nie ma komentarza jest to dla mnie wystarczająca informacja. <br>
4.	„nie czytałem” to znaczy co? – nie ma co czytać, nie ma  o kim czytać, czy też „co mądrego może napisać jedna baba o drugiej babie”? – każda z tych wersji jest prowokująca i obraźliwa zarówno dla mnie jak i dla osoby, o której napisałam. Jeśli chciałeś komuś „przywalić”, to gratuluję postawy moderatora!<br>
5.	Uważam, że nie jest niczym niewłaściwym pisanie o aktorach na forum filmowym (nie piszę o aptekarzu, szewcu, nie zajmuję się plotkami) Napisałam o aktorce polskiej, ale niestety „cudze chwalicie swego nie znacie” (to drugi cytat) <br>
6.	A propos cytatu. Owszem wykorzystałam go dwukrotnie, ale jest świetnym odzwierciedleniem wielu komentarzy i nie ma w nim nic uwłaczającego, wręcz przeciwnie!<br>
7.	Wracając zaś do hasła „nie czytałem”. Skoro tak, to skąd o cytacie wiedza? Dobra, wiem jesteś moderatorem, wiec masz za zadanie obserwowanie.<br>
8.	Jeśli ktoś komentuje mój tekst, uważam za stosowne odpowiedzieć na komentarz. Tego moim zdaniem wymaga grzeczność, która nie jest „nauka łatwą ani małą” (to 3 cytat, abyś mi nie zarzucał, że ciągle „podpieram się” jednym)<br>
9.	Argument pod tytułem, że nie mógłbyś usunąć, ale możesz przenieść do mnie nie przemawia. Doskonale wiesz, że nie ma do tego powodu, chociaż masz prawo. Ani tekst, ani żaden z komentarzy nie jest niestosowny, czy obraźliwy, a że komentarze nie na temat – nie moja w tym „zasługa”.<br>
10.	Nie jestem „blondynką” ani upartym mułem, do którego nie docierają rzeczowe argumenty. Jeśli ktoś mi coś doradza, z dobrych rad korzystam.  Wcześniejszy adwersarz zasugerował, aby umieścić kilka tekstów w jednym, co nie omieszkałam uczynić.</p>
<p>11.	Na koniec odpowiadając wszystkim pozostałym adwersarzom:<br>
a)	nie jestem fanatyczną fanką, a to że o kimś napisałam, czy go lubię nie oznacza fanatyzmu<br>
b)	nikt mi za pisanie nie płaci, niestety<br>
c)	to że na kogoś postać ta działa jak czerwona płachta na byka, to jego problem, ale nie widzę też powodu, aby wymyślać od pseudoaktorek <br>
d)	Na forum jestem od dwóch m-cy, więc wybaczcie, że moje pisanie razi wasze poczucie estetyki, ale nie jest to powód, żeby komuś wymyślać od grafomanów<br>
e)	ludzie kochani skąd w was tyle napastliwości i agresji, żeby kontynuować tę dyskusję o …  no właśnie, o czym? Naprawdę „gra nie warta świeczki” !<br>
(moderator znowu będzie miał pretensję o nadużywanie wielokropków)<br>
f)	myślałam, że czasy cenzury mamy już za sobą, a tu ze wszech stron mnie pouczają<br>
g)	dziękuję za wszelakie sugestie i wsparcie</p>
<p>Jeszcze  ostanie słowo do imć moderatora – bez cienia złośliwości!<br>
Życzę konstruktywnych dyskusji, trafnych recenzji oraz mniej prowokacyjnych komentarzy, bo myślę, że nie zdajesz sobie sprawy z tego, iż możesz takim komentarzem  (nie czytałem) sprawić komuś przykrość!<br>
„To by było na tyle!” – ostatni cytat z J.T.Stanisławskiego.<br>
 Temat uważam za zakończony, ale nie moją bytność na forum! Może jeszcze Was zaskoczę!<br>
Pozdrawiam! <br>
Powodzenia i mniej napastliwości!</p>
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  <p>Jak jest ktoś kto piszę, bo lubi, to nie podoba się to niektórym, a jak nikt nic nie piszę to też jest źle. Ludziom nigdy się nie dogodzi.</p>
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  <p>Droga Jano – dyskutować to Ty najbardziej dyskutujesz – można to wywnioskować choćby z ilości słów, których używasz w dyskusjach.. Widzę, że nawet błahy komentarz pt "Że też chce Ci się pisać" powoduje u Ciebie ogromną radość, że ktoś się Twoimi wypocinami zainteresował. <br>
Niepotrzebnie. <br>
Więcej odpisywać nie będę, bo szkoda mojego cennego czasu na rozwijanie tematu na forum poświęconym aktorce, której ani znam ani lubię. Szkoda również, że Twój cenny czas nie jest spędzany np. na poszerzaniu strony (biografie itd) tejże, uwielbianej przez Ciebie aktorki. Byłoby to przynajmniej coś pożytecznego i uporządkowanego, na czym może kiedyś ktoś by skorzystał. A nie fikcyjny ruch na jej forum – bo szczerze to cała dyskusja nie o niej…</p>
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  <p>Dziięki za dobre słowo!  A tak na marginesie, nie rozumiem, co spowodowało tę lawinę napastliwych komentarzy… Dzięki, że nie przyłączasz się do tego "złowieszczego chóru". Tym bardziej, że Twoja "trzygwiazdkowa pozycja" mówi sama za siebie… Czyż nie jest zastanawiające, że najbardziej obrażają ci, którzy reputacją na forum największą się nie cieszą?<br>
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  <p>&gt; Czyż nie jest zastanawiające, że najbardziej obrażają ci, którzy<br>
&gt; reputacją na forum największą się nie cieszą?</p>
<p>Nie, nie wydaje mi się. Zresztą ja tutaj nie widzę żeby ktoś poważnie obrażał. Oni tylko nie są przyzwyczajeni, że ktoś lubi tyle pisać na forum. :)</p>
<p>Fajnie jakbyś z nami została na dłużej i po udzielała się. I nie tylko w temacie tej aktorki, bo stać Cię na więcej.</p>
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  <p>Mam taki zamiar, co niniejszym czynię!<br>
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  <p>&gt; Jana o 2009-01-05 15:28 napisał:</p>
<p>&gt; d)	Na forum jestem od dwóch m-cy, więc wybaczcie, że moje pisanie razi wasze<br>
&gt; poczucie estetyki, ale nie jest to powód, żeby komuś wymyślać od <strong>grafomanów</strong></p>
<p>&gt; Pozdrawiam! <br>
&gt; Powodzenia i mniej napastliwości!</p>
<p>To mi się nieładnie napisało i za to przepraszam;)<br>
Zdziwiła mnie niechęć do Twoich komentarzy. Sam przeczytałem pierwszy z ciekawości, ale że temat nie dla mnie, więc dalszych nie sprawdzałem. Dla mnie było ważne, że piszesz dobrą polszczyzną i dlatego się wypowiedziałem odnośnie kilku negatywnych komentarzy. Przez grafomanię, z pełną świadomością użyłem tego słowa, zostałem wypunktowany przez Ciebie;)<br>
Obiecuję, że już bezpodstawnie nie będę Ci wymyślał:D</p>
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  <p>Dobre i  to, że chociaż dwie osoby się zreflektowały!<br>
Więcej komentować tego tematu nie zamierzam!<br>
Dziękuję za "twórczą aktywność"<br>
Pozdrawiam!</p>
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  <p>&gt; Jana o 2009-01-09 22:01 napisał:  <br>
&gt; Dobre i  to, że chociaż dwie osoby się zreflektowały!</p>
<p>nie zreflektował, jedynie stwierdziłem, że nie potrzebnie napisałem o grafomanii.<br>
Mój pierwszy post był bardziej w Twojej obronie, ale widocznie ogólne zacietrzewienie Ci się udzieliło<br>
Temat mnie ani ziębi, ani grzeje dlatego napisałem żebyś pisała nie przejmując się krytyką</p>
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  <p>&gt; Czudi o 2009-01-10 01:16 napisał:  <br>
&gt; nie zreflektował, jedynie stwierdziłem, że nie potrzebnie napisałem o<br>
&gt; grafomanii.<br>
&gt; Mój pierwszy post był bardziej w Twojej obronie, ale widocznie ogólne<br>
&gt; zacietrzewienie Ci się udzieliło<br>
&gt; Temat mnie ani ziębi, ani grzeje dlatego napisałem żebyś pisała nie przejmując<br>
&gt; się krytyką</p>
<p>Masz  rację obrońco uciśnionych (to komplement nie złośliwość!). Przepraszam!<br>
Skończmy już proszę tę polemikę, bo za chwilę pojawi się zarzut, że robię sztuczny ruch na forum. Nie żebym się tym przejmowała, ale po prostu już mnie znużyła dyskusja „nie na temat” (mam na myśli tę całą lawinę komentarzy). Dzięki za obronę (nawet z „prztyczkiem w nos”!)<br>
Pozdrawiam!</p>
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